Saturday, April 2, 2011

if not Jake, then who??

I have been thinking about ‘where’ the swapped out child might have come from...
What if Jerry happened to have a son three-four years ago who happened to be in an accident and Franco had access to this child (perhaps Franco had previously kidnapped this child??) and he gets the idea of "hey, I've got this injured blond toddler and I can kidnap Jason's son and have a go at him". This, of course, makes the child an easy match for Joss's transplant. This also plays in line with the previous Franco s/l of throwing a terminally ill man off a building as opposed to just any man. (No, the child didn't agree to it but 'maybe' it was the only way to get the child emergency care... to dump him at Elizabeth's... after all, he can't rightly show up at GH with Jerry's kid can he?).

Franco/The Balkin/Helena

I'm trying to make sense of how Franco/The Balkin/Helena could all be connected.

My favorite theory goes like this:

Franco is the ring leader but lets The Balkin/Helena think they are in charge.

He hires The Balkin to deal with distracting Jason via the Brenda situation while he is busy (you know school, movies, Oscars). The Balkin is a great choice since he has a personal vendetta against Brenda. Of course Franco knows this because he has a man-size man-crush on Jason and knows 'everything'. (don't ask how - maybe henchmen to spare to follow everyone in Jason's life since his first kill)??

Tha Balkin spins out of control because he is crazy. Luckily enough for Franco his ex-lover Suzanne is playing things fast and loose and is always one step ahead of The Balkin. (After all she IS the one that brought Jason on board in the first place and is the one that has guardianship of the grandson).

Suzanne and her old pal Helena have set up a special home where Suzanne's grandson has been raised along with another little boy about the same age (Helena's latest obession/project.)

When Helena kidnapped Lucky all those years ago (or LUKE a few years ago?) she extracted some of his sperm. Her fascination with Luke combined with power/lust/dementia is a BAD combination and led her to impregnates a Cassidine niece so that she could raise her very own "Little Luke" aka Lucien. At long last Luke will LOVE HER.

Unbeknownst to Helena, Suzanne, in a last ditch attempt to protect her grandson, swaps him out for Lucien and presents Lucien to Brenda. (Obvs they must use this name as this is the name the child knows.)

Hell to pay when Helena finds out and wouldn't that be some fun fireworks.

Franco could have given the order to 'make it happen' and now he sits back and laughs like the insanly twisted childhood bully gone wrong he really is.

Friday, April 1, 2011

muddy waters

This interview with Bob Guza just muddies the waters for me!

http://www.tvguide.com/News/General-Hospital-Scoop-1031331.aspx

I don’t know how to process this other than to say I think Guza may have bi-polar like Sonny.

OR
(not to sound paranoid or suspicios but seriously…)

Maybe VMG comments, Ingo’s texts, are all HYPE.. which really makes me sad. I did read a VMG comment that said “I don’t want to know what Brenda is doing until I get the script” so maybe she doesn’t know but that is stupid.. there are contracts… (well no.. look at the crap with RH contract… and poor TC. Obvs contracts mean nothing).
Oh dear!
I have no idea.

I know that I have faith in the s/l I presented here.
I believe Franco is behind it all.
I also think your idea of Franco using Brenda/Jax baby is very conceivable.. but when I pause on the name “Lucien” it makes me think he would be a decendant of Lucky’s not Brenda/Jax which throws me for a loop.

It makes me wonder if Helena and Franco and all of the other GH villians just ‘hang out’ in Guza’s head because he doesn’t make sense to me. Now I’m wondering “who did Lucky sleep with 3 years ago that Suzanne would have access to?”. Argh! (and why??)

You and I both have some dark/twisted s/l’s but we’re not Guza. (yay!)

April 1, 2011 at 8:08 pm

(JAQ does not want to sound like Guza... who does?)
That's all for today! Yikes!

mickey mousing around

I just received a letter from The Walt Disney Company.. a paralegal to be exact. This is in response to my letter to Anne Sweeney on March 24 encapsulating how I thought they should "Bring Jake Back".

It's a very nice letter albeit most likely a form letter stating that they do not keep unsolicited material.
It also states in part that "It is our intention to avoid misunderstandings when projects are created internally which might be similar to submissions made to us from outside the company."

That is probably standard legal mumbo/jumbo but let's hope we're on the right track.

Hmmm.

foolin' around :)

JAQ
It was tacky and low of Sonny not to be there at the memorial. If anything, in lieu of Jason not going.
Bad Bad Bad writing.
As far as VGM, yes we will always disagree about her.
I think she is pretty, I think she looks horrible.

Can we agree that good acting consists of more than just raising an eyebrow and giggling?

Sorry…I meant to say YOU think she is pretty.
April 1, 2011 at 11:50 am

JAQ
I don't mind that we disagree on VMG - everyone is entitled to their opinons :)
I love that we both LOVE GH and are passionate about the stories being well written and cohesive and that we both put so much energy into figuring it out.
I love that Maria gives us a friendly forum to do so and that everyone is welcome to have their say.
How cool is that? VERY!
April 1, 2011 at 7:28 pm

3/31/11 Thoughts:
As far as Sonny and Jason not attending?
Oooh I thought that was strange.
I don't even remember when Brenda's birthday was.. if it were really her birthday I hope Robin will acknowledge it. I guess that is Sonny's 'best excuse' but Jason... oh to not feel as if he belonged (and those shaking hands) - heartbreaker.

You know what else bothers me? Brenda's sudden about face regarding Jason. Less than a month ago she was living in his apartment and he was protecting her.
Two-three months ago wasn't she cradled in his arms on the sofa/bed having nightmares? I thought for sure Guza was going to put Jason/Brenda toghether. Instead they played a 'close friendship' which I thought was kind of sweet.

Now.. what? She doesn't care.. or feels 'out of place'?
I get that it's a coverup because she suddenly has a 'miscarriage' she has to grieve over. (that hasn't stopped her before from being in people's lives).

Argh.. it's those inconsistencies that annoy me more than anything.

Poor Elizabeth. That's all I have to say. What a complete rut she has dug for herself.

Basic Instinct or Misery?
What else.. ewww Lisa is going to completely corrupt Kristina. Those evil eyes - dark slanty pits of hell! Yes Lisa is going to teach Kristina how to capture Ethan (if we ever see him again) Basic Instinct/Misery style. I'm so sad Lisa will be her mentor but at the same time not surprised - when was there ever a positive role model on GH after Lila passed away?

The New Mob:
I miss the old Morgan. I had hopes he and Molly would take over the mob. The new Morgan? Not so much (plus he's never on screen).

Michael's got a gun:
Michael subconsiously wants to go back to prison so he can kick "Carter's" ass even though Carter is dead. He doesn't understand this yet and needs more time in therapy to figure this out. Instead he is spending a lot of time acting out his mob fantasies and making love to Abby. While I applaud his studliness he needs to think before he acts or he is going to end up back in the place he dreads most... and I don't think he is as powerful as he 'thinks' he is. It will be a terrible wake up call. Or worse he will end up in Shadybrook for PTSD and who knows what will happen.

Thursday, March 31, 2011

Going forward-Jason, Sam, Elizabeth, Jake, and Franco

(posted March 28, 2011 - now I'm all caught up!)

I've been thinking all weekend that Franco could easily set up Luke with his car being at a deserted Haunted Star however I still don't understand the 'why' unless it is to test Jason by straining his relationship with Sonny. I think it would have been further tested by making the 'hit and runner' Sam but since TG is scheduled for his vacation it was perhaps more convenient for the writers to go this way.

(Heaven forbid their convenient writing give us a cohesive storyline.)

Since we now know that Franco is back on canvas and I'm confident he took Jake the only question is when Jason will know Jake is alive and how it will impact Jason's relationships with Elizabeth and Sam. I think "Jake's Death" is going to be the catalyst that will bring Jason and Elizabeth together (not saying I want that, just saying that I see the potential of this happening as a couple would cleave together to protect their "back from the dead child"). After all, Elizabeth has stated that she feels guilty for keeping Jason from his son and she is the queen of bad decisions/emotional decisions/decisions on the fly. When Jake returns Elizabeth is going to make many emotional decisions.

Jason is thinking 'all heart/no brain' for the first time since his brain injury. Kudos to SB for really showing that transition. It has been a subtle slide ever since Michael was shot and then accelerated somewhat when he was imprisoned but now it is full force. Jason is no longer Stone Cold. He 'may' be able to retain his 'killer status' but he has become very human and it's sweet to see.

It will be curious to see how this ultimately affects how he deals with Franco. He may not be able to pull the trigger when he needs to if his compassion overwhelms his anger and need for revenge. I'm certain that will be the case with Luke (since Luke makes it to vacation, haha)

Sam.. on the other hand, seems more and more distant. Perhaps the blast affected her emotionally and she can pick up where Jason left off. That would actually be fun (twisted but fun).

massaging the theory

This is from a conversation with JAQ and Maria at About.com General Hospital
Fans

JAQ and Maria agree but had some questions which I try to address... This is all speculation on my part but I am having fun :)




Annette

I think when Franco said “I should have been paying closer attention” it’s a big clue.

The Joss cancer/kidney s/l is part of the rip off from BJ/Maxie… but I think irrelevant as far as Franco kidnapping Jake and putting a mangled toddler in his place simply to torture Jason.

In life their are coincidences/parallels, etc. So perhaps the writers were ‘playing cute’ by having Joss have cancer and need a kidney. It’s another distraction but Franco (IMO) had nothing to do with it… it just ‘happened’.

However… as far as ‘the writers’ being cruel enough?
Let’s review just a few storylines:
Luke raped/married Laura
Helena killed Lucky (just kidding… he’s fine!)
Stavros is dead.. oh no, he was just FROZEN!
Alan.. where to begin??
Robin, Stone??
Georgie.. Seriously.
Alcazar’s niece (what was her name?)
Helena slitting Alexis’ mother in front of her as a child
Jason in a horrible accident, comes out a new man.

More recently…
Michael shot in the head/in a coma for a year .. comes out a new man
Michael violently raped by a man in prison
Brenda blown up on her wedding day…
just kidding.. she was drugged and kidnapped and drugged again!
Sam was swapped out for Brenda because you know.. women are so disposable, blown up, lost her hearing and.. wait for it.. appears to come out a new woman

Do I think the writers have the capacity to write a s/l that encapsulates kidnapping a 3.5 year old little boy (Lucky is already calling him 4yr so I predict a SORAS when found.. too bad I loved his little nose!) anyway.. the kidnapping, swapping of Jake with a mangled child, pinning it on the head of one of the LAST of the main families in PC and one of the most dynamic actors on daytime? Sure.. I have no trouble imagining it and I have watched since I was 4 yrs old (so lets say 40+ yrs thanks Granny!).

Do I think they are doing it for the right reasons?
Well we’re talking about it.
Huff Post is, NY Times, et al. so…
Do I think we’re being ‘played’. Yes… but I’ll keep playing.


March 30, 2011 at 6:29 pm

Maria and I agreed on some things, but not everything... so I press my point.

Annette

Hi Maria,
Franco tossed a man off of a building to make Jason think he had killed himself.
So.. the ‘character’ Franco is cruel and callous and the writers seem to know no limits and like to push boundaries with him.
It could be more palatable..
For example, perhaps it was an accident of circumstance… Franco could have had the word out that whenever a little boy looking like Jason’s son was critically injured to pick him up and go kidnap Jake. After all there is the question of how Jake opened the door.
However, I will never buy Franco as a killer with a conscience.

As far as Joss/Kidney?
I think that was just thrown in there to heighten the drama.
Joss has been healthy, no illness/symptoms whatsoever. All of the sudden on the same night as Jake’s ‘death’ she comes down with Wilms Tumors on both kidneys and must have immediate kidney transplants? Improbable.
The Joss s/l was rushed. She was sick, in the hospital, and in the next days sitting up and playing.
Sure.

Why do I think it was thrown in? Well the Maxie/BJ storyline was a beloved s/l long remembered for how emotional it was. Of course that story was carefully crafted over time.

This was done barbarically, swiftly and without much planning.

Anyway.. this is all just IMO.
March 30, 2011 at 6:54 pm
cont.
Oh, and I don’t think ‘anyone’ ran over a child.
I do think that the DNA of the mystery child who was operated on/died was placed on Luke’s car.

I also think that at some point a blood test on Joss will come up in front of Elizabeth.. she’ll see the blood type or something and say “how is it possible that Jake/Joss are a match”.

And then the hunt for Jake will be on.

Or.. I could be completely wrong. :)


March 30, 2011 at 6:58 pm


Annette

Hi JAQ,
What I meant is that Joss’s need for a kidney was not caused by Franco.
I think that adding her need for a kidney seemed slapped into the story because it wasn’t developed.
If she had been sicker, longer, and then Jake was hit (or whomever) it would have made more sense (of course it would have also more directly paralleled the Maxie/BJ s/l).

When Franco said “I should have been paying more attention” I think it was as if he was saying he should have been aware Joss was sick. How that plays into anything that has transpired I don’t know. Would he have waited to take Jake? How would that have affected things… more tragically as it turns out.

I just think that if you look at the story from the outside it is completely coincidental that Joss needed a kidney transplant on the night Jake (whomever) died and the child left in Jake’s place is a perfect match.
If you look at it from the inside (as we are trying to do) it seems very convenient, and contrived.

As convenient plot devices go I think it will be the clue to finding Jake. (yay!)

I hope I made it make sense this time :)


March 30, 2011 at 7:29 pm

Maria pays me an amazing compliment:






Maria



Annette, your storyline theory about DNA on Luke’s car and the blood test that Elizabeth sees not being a match for Joss is too good a story for these writers to come up with, so forget it. Franco throwing a man off a building is not the same as an injured child. It’s not that I think he has a conscience, but wouldn’t you think the writers would have consciences? They’ve already put us through Jake’s death, they’re going to compound it with an awful story of some poor kid? As far as the Josslyn story being thrown in, it wasn’t thrown in because it had been planned for a long time. It just looked like it was thrown in. Was it stupid? Yes. Did it seem like an afterthought? Yes.

Originally, way back, they were going to do a COMPLETE ripoff of the Sam-Alexis stem cell storyline with some kid or another, now I can’t remember. Then they came up with this. Sloppy.

And no one has mentioned that, after Luke being a drunk for what, 20 years or so, they’re suddenly addressing his drinking.

All this is an excuse to show off the one thing GH has – good actors.
March 30, 2011 at 7:33 pm

Annette

Well, thank God for that… Otherwise we’d have nothing to watch :)


March 30, 2011 at 7:44 pm

Annette

And Maria,
I should say thanks :)
When I was a kid.. maybe 12 I dreamed of writing for GH.
My imagination is brutal and it’s probably not helped by watching the violence that I subject it to each day just on regular TV. (I quit horror movies in college)
I don’t read the trades/spoilers so I had no idea about what was/is planned/not planned as far as s/l. I prefer to spin it out in my head. I’ve done that for years.

Okay.. so the writers have planned out Joss’s Kidney cancer. That does give her a long arc story of being a survivor, and how it can affect her body down the road (can she have kids for example, other illnesses, etc).

I still believe the Joss s/l could lead us to Jake and I will continue to hold out hope for that :)

And no.. I don’t believe the writer’s have consciences. I think the writers have jobs.
Their jobs are to tell stories (note I did not say good stories, just stories) that get viewers.

For every viewer that says they are ‘leaving GH’ there are viewers that are posting… talking about it, and then there are the people talking about the viewers posting. GH has gotten a ton of press.

I Googled and stopped counting at 36 mentions for “Jake’s Death” in articles from the US/Canada. News/TV/Forums/Blogs/Video. Diatribes, rants, polls, opinions. Everyone is talking about what happened and why.

Talk about a lot of advertising for ‘a lousy story’.

Considering I read on this board not long ago that ABC is finished with AMC and OLTL has until 2012 I would imagine that TPTB would ask that GH stay well in the public’s mind. Right now everyone is pissed off. In 3 months ‘we’ll’ remember.. the rest of the world will just remember “GH”. Maybe even less time.. as more happens in life the shorter attention spans people have (people barely talk about C. Sheen anymore and he allegedly starved his dogs – one died).

SO.. what I’m saying is that in the old days we had amazing writers and producers telling incredible stories that grabbed our attention, pulled at our heartstrings and tickled our imagination.

Today I suspect the writers are playing the ‘no news is bad news’ game much like every star releasing an album/movie.
Something ‘bad’ happens, the press talks, everyone gets excited, then goes about their business but the attention has been refocused on their brand for the moment and no one had to pay $$$.

Oh.. but perhaps those advertising revenues coming in are working better. More sales, better sales?


March 30, 2011 at 8:12 pm




JAQ


You made soo much sense I want to marry the post.
I LOVED it!!

My problem is the writers are too stupid and lazy for all that to ring true.

Good catch with the comment from Franco.
The child is kidnapped for years, and when he comes back it will be years. Or he will have grown.
March 30, 2011 at 8:44 pm

JAQ

All the boards today are lit up with this article.
A friend stated it was on twitter last night.

Maria…What I meant to say in an earlier post is that Annette’s ‘theory’ of what could have happened, I don’t feel the writers are that smart or ambitious to come up with the scenerio as she did.

Hopefully I am wrong. The boy lives on.
March 30, 2011 at 10:18 pm

Maria

I agree, JAQ, Annette’s ideas are too good!

Also, Annette, I think you give the writers too much credit with the no news is bad news. I don’t believe they think past their noses. Sadly, I think by killing off Jake, they thought they were writing a heartfelt story that would pull at the heartstrings and bring in ratings. There’s been a lot of publicity but how many people, after reading Ed Martin’s article, are going to decide to tune in who never have before? Try NONE.

March 30, 2011 at 11:32 pm


Barb

The car was rented to or otherwise associated with the Balkin. But we don’t know who was drivingit. Franco, Johnny, somebody else.


March 31, 2011 at 12:44 am


Barb


The no news is bad news idea has become so basic, everyone knows it. Even Guza.
March 31, 2011 at 12:59 am JAQ
I know this is getting off topic, not sure where to post this.
Annette-I took your theory to a friend. We mixed it up a little.
Tell me, including you Maria if this is too far fetched as well as impossible for the writers to think up on their own:
(We know they aren’t bright)

Jake is alive. He was kidnapped. One child in place for aother. The parents didn’t go to see him on life support, wasn’t he so unrecognizable they didn’t want to remember him like that??
Franco’s hint. Jason should have paid ‘better attention’
Brenda & Jax had a child. Franco kidnapped that child. (Jakes age) The child was that of Brenda’s and Jax. (Kidney compatible) He then took the another in place of the one he kidnapped.
The DNA on Lukes car was planted there by Franco. SORSDS Jake and he comes back older. This was the plan all along with the writers.
Is this feasable or am I spending too much time on the computer??

March 31, 2011 at 4:30 am


Maria


You’re spending too much time at the computer. Only kidding.

It would all make some sort of convoluted, insane sense if Brenda’s child wasn’t coming onto the show April 4, little Lucian, whom I know you know about. Are you trying to say they had ANOTHER child that somehow Brenda is forgetting? She never said she had two miscarriages, and we know if she had another child, she would have kept the baby as she was going to keep the one she thought she lost.

March 31, 2011 at 12:10 pm

Annette

Hi JAQ

Haha we ALL are spending a lot of time on the computer these days but I think that is what makes it fun :)

You bring up a great point.
To tell you the truth I keep wondering ‘where’ this other child could be sourced from. Is he relevant or random? What would have more impact?

Would Franco just have a call out to his henchmen for any toddler who fits the bill? After all the writers make the kidney match work, not Franco. That is either a ‘happy accident’ (if we go with my theory) or Franco picked up a child no one knew about. In that case that’s so low and even more disposable/despicable. What male had a child with someone off screen that would make the boy a match with Joss? Jax or Jerry.

Sigh.

I can see it work but wow we are really going dark!

March 31, 2011 at 3:36 pm

JAQ

What I am thinking Maria is, the boy they are bringing on the show really is not Brenda’s boy. Brenda’s boy was kidnapped & put in Jakes place. So the body was that of Brenda

This is from a conversation with JAQ and Maria at About.com General Hospital
Fans

JAQ and Maria agree but had some questions which I try to address... This is all speculation on my part but I am having fun :)




Annette

I think when Franco said “I should have been paying closer attention” it’s a big clue.

The Joss cancer/kidney s/l is part of the rip off from BJ/Maxie… but I think irrelevant as far as Franco kidnapping Jake and putting a mangled toddler in his place simply to torture Jason.

In life their are coincidences/parallels, etc. So perhaps the writers were ‘playing cute’ by having Joss have cancer and need a kidney. It’s another distraction but Franco (IMO) had nothing to do with it… it just ‘happened’.

However… as far as ‘the writers’ being cruel enough?
Let’s review just a few storylines:
Luke raped/married Laura
Helena killed Lucky (just kidding… he’s fine!)
Stavros is dead.. oh no, he was just FROZEN!
Alan.. where to begin??
Robin, Stone??
Georgie.. Seriously.
Alcazar’s niece (what was her name?)
Helena slitting Alexis’ mother in front of her as a child
Jason in a horrible accident, comes out a new man.

More recently…
Michael shot in the head/in a coma for a year .. comes out a new man
Michael violently raped by a man in prison
Brenda blown up on her wedding day…
just kidding.. she was drugged and kidnapped and drugged again!
Sam was swapped out for Brenda because you know.. women are so disposable, blown up, lost her hearing and.. wait for it.. appears to come out a new woman

Do I think the writers have the capacity to write a s/l that encapsulates kidnapping a 3.5 year old little boy (Lucky is already calling him 4yr so I predict a SORAS when found.. too bad I loved his little nose!) anyway.. the kidnapping, swapping of Jake with a mangled child, pinning it on the head of one of the LAST of the main families in PC and one of the most dynamic actors on daytime? Sure.. I have no trouble imagining it and I have watched since I was 4 yrs old (so lets say 40+ yrs thanks Granny!).

Do I think they are doing it for the right reasons?
Well we’re talking about it.
Huff Post is, NY Times, et al. so…
Do I think we’re being ‘played’. Yes… but I’ll keep playing.


March 30, 2011 at 6:29 pm

Maria and I agreed on some things, but not everything... so I press my point.

Annette

Hi Maria,
Franco tossed a man off of a building to make Jason think he had killed himself.
So.. the ‘character’ Franco is cruel and callous and the writers seem to know no limits and like to push boundaries with him.
It could be more palatable..
For example, perhaps it was an accident of circumstance… Franco could have had the word out that whenever a little boy looking like Jason’s son was critically injured to pick him up and go kidnap Jake. After all there is the question of how Jake opened the door.
However, I will never buy Franco as a killer with a conscience.

As far as Joss/Kidney?
I think that was just thrown in there to heighten the drama.
Joss has been healthy, no illness/symptoms whatsoever. All of the sudden on the same night as Jake’s ‘death’ she comes down with Wilms Tumors on both kidneys and must have immediate kidney transplants? Improbable.
The Joss s/l was rushed. She was sick, in the hospital, and in the next days sitting up and playing.
Sure.

Why do I think it was thrown in? Well the Maxie/BJ storyline was a beloved s/l long remembered for how emotional it was. Of course that story was carefully crafted over time.

This was done barbarically, swiftly and without much planning.

Anyway.. this is all just IMO.
March 30, 2011 at 6:54 pm
cont.
Oh, and I don’t think ‘anyone’ ran over a child.
I do think that the DNA of the mystery child who was operated on/died was placed on Luke’s car.

I also think that at some point a blood test on Joss will come up in front of Elizabeth.. she’ll see the blood type or something and say “how is it possible that Jake/Joss are a match”.

And then the hunt for Jake will be on.

Or.. I could be completely wrong. :)


March 30, 2011 at 6:58 pm


Annette

Hi JAQ,
What I meant is that Joss’s need for a kidney was not caused by Franco.
I think that adding her need for a kidney seemed slapped into the story because it wasn’t developed.
If she had been sicker, longer, and then Jake was hit (or whomever) it would have made more sense (of course it would have also more directly paralleled the Maxie/BJ s/l).

When Franco said “I should have been paying more attention” I think it was as if he was saying he should have been aware Joss was sick. How that plays into anything that has transpired I don’t know. Would he have waited to take Jake? How would that have affected things… more tragically as it turns out.

I just think that if you look at the story from the outside it is completely coincidental that Joss needed a kidney transplant on the night Jake (whomever) died and the child left in Jake’s place is a perfect match.
If you look at it from the inside (as we are trying to do) it seems very convenient, and contrived.

As convenient plot devices go I think it will be the clue to finding Jake. (yay!)

I hope I made it make sense this time :)


March 30, 2011 at 7:29 pm

Maria pays me an amazing compliment:






Maria



Annette, your storyline theory about DNA on Luke’s car and the blood test that Elizabeth sees not being a match for Joss is too good a story for these writers to come up with, so forget it. Franco throwing a man off a building is not the same as an injured child. It’s not that I think he has a conscience, but wouldn’t you think the writers would have consciences? They’ve already put us through Jake’s death, they’re going to compound it with an awful story of some poor kid? As far as the Josslyn story being thrown in, it wasn’t thrown in because it had been planned for a long time. It just looked like it was thrown in. Was it stupid? Yes. Did it seem like an afterthought? Yes.

Originally, way back, they were going to do a COMPLETE ripoff of the Sam-Alexis stem cell storyline with some kid or another, now I can’t remember. Then they came up with this. Sloppy.

And no one has mentioned that, after Luke being a drunk for what, 20 years or so, they’re suddenly addressing his drinking.

All this is an excuse to show off the one thing GH has – good actors.
March 30, 2011 at 7:33 pm

Annette

Well, thank God for that… Otherwise we’d have nothing to watch :)


March 30, 2011 at 7:44 pm

Annette

And Maria,
I should say thanks :)
When I was a kid.. maybe 12 I dreamed of writing for GH.
My imagination is brutal and it’s probably not helped by watching the violence that I subject it to each day just on regular TV. (I quit horror movies in college)
I don’t read the trades/spoilers so I had no idea about what was/is planned/not planned as far as s/l. I prefer to spin it out in my head. I’ve done that for years.

Okay.. so the writers have planned out Joss’s Kidney cancer. That does give her a long arc story of being a survivor, and how it can affect her body down the road (can she have kids for example, other illnesses, etc).

I still believe the Joss s/l could lead us to Jake and I will continue to hold out hope for that :)

And no.. I don’t believe the writer’s have consciences. I think the writers have jobs.
Their jobs are to tell stories (note I did not say good stories, just stories) that get viewers.

For every viewer that says they are ‘leaving GH’ there are viewers that are posting… talking about it, and then there are the people talking about the viewers posting. GH has gotten a ton of press.

I Googled and stopped counting at 36 mentions for “Jake’s Death” in articles from the US/Canada. News/TV/Forums/Blogs/Video. Diatribes, rants, polls, opinions. Everyone is talking about what happened and why.

Talk about a lot of advertising for ‘a lousy story’.

Considering I read on this board not long ago that ABC is finished with AMC and OLTL has until 2012 I would imagine that TPTB would ask that GH stay well in the public’s mind. Right now everyone is pissed off. In 3 months ‘we’ll’ remember.. the rest of the world will just remember “GH”. Maybe even less time.. as more happens in life the shorter attention spans people have (people barely talk about C. Sheen anymore and he allegedly starved his dogs – one died).

SO.. what I’m saying is that in the old days we had amazing writers and producers telling incredible stories that grabbed our attention, pulled at our heartstrings and tickled our imagination.

Today I suspect the writers are playing the ‘no news is bad news’ game much like every star releasing an album/movie.
Something ‘bad’ happens, the press talks, everyone gets excited, then goes about their business but the attention has been refocused on their brand for the moment and no one had to pay $$$.

Oh.. but perhaps those advertising revenues coming in are working better. More sales, better sales?


March 30, 2011 at 8:12 pm




JAQ


You made soo much sense I want to marry the post.
I LOVED it!!

My problem is the writers are too stupid and lazy for all that to ring true.

Good catch with the comment from Franco.
The child is kidnapped for years, and when he comes back it will be years. Or he will have grown.
March 30, 2011 at 8:44 pm

JAQ

All the boards today are lit up with this article.
A friend stated it was on twitter last night.

Maria…What I meant to say in an earlier post is that Annette’s ‘theory’ of what could have happened, I don’t feel the writers are that smart or ambitious to come up with the scenerio as she did.

Hopefully I am wrong. The boy lives on.
March 30, 2011 at 10:18 pm

Maria

I agree, JAQ, Annette’s ideas are too good!

Also, Annette, I think you give the writers too much credit with the no news is bad news. I don’t believe they think past their noses. Sadly, I think by killing off Jake, they thought they were writing a heartfelt story that would pull at the heartstrings and bring in ratings. There’s been a lot of publicity but how many people, after reading Ed Martin’s article, are going to decide to tune in who never have before? Try NONE.

March 30, 2011 at 11:32 pm


Barb

The car was rented to or otherwise associated with the Balkin. But we don’t know who was drivingit. Franco, Johnny, somebody else.


March 31, 2011 at 12:44 am


Barb


The no news is bad news idea has become so basic, everyone knows it. Even Guza.
March 31, 2011 at 12:59 am JAQ
I know this is getting off topic, not sure where to post this.
Annette-I took your theory to a friend. We mixed it up a little.
Tell me, including you Maria if this is too far fetched as well as impossible for the writers to think up on their own:
(We know they aren’t bright)

Jake is alive. He was kidnapped. One child in place for aother. The parents didn’t go to see him on life support, wasn’t he so unrecognizable they didn’t want to remember him like that??
Franco’s hint. Jason should have paid ‘better attention’
Brenda & Jax had a child. Franco kidnapped that child. (Jakes age) The child was that of Brenda’s and Jax. (Kidney compatible) He then took the another in place of the one he kidnapped.
The DNA on Lukes car was planted there by Franco. SORSDS Jake and he comes back older. This was the plan all along with the writers.
Is this feasable or am I spending too much time on the computer??

March 31, 2011 at 4:30 am


Maria


You’re spending too much time at the computer. Only kidding.

It would all make some sort of convoluted, insane sense if Brenda’s child wasn’t coming onto the show April 4, little Lucian, whom I know you know about. Are you trying to say they had ANOTHER child that somehow Brenda is forgetting? She never said she had two miscarriages, and we know if she had another child, she would have kept the baby as she was going to keep the one she thought she lost.

March 31, 2011 at 12:10 pm

Annette

Hi JAQ

Haha we ALL are spending a lot of time on the computer these days but I think that is what makes it fun :)

You bring up a great point.
To tell you the truth I keep wondering ‘where’ this other child could be sourced from. Is he relevant or random? What would have more impact?

Would Franco just have a call out to his henchmen for any toddler who fits the bill? After all the writers make the kidney match work, not Franco. That is either a ‘happy accident’ (if we go with my theory) or Franco picked up a child no one knew about. In that case that’s so low and even more disposable/despicable. What male had a child with someone off screen that would make the boy a match with Joss? Jax or Jerry.

Sigh.

I can see it work but wow we are really going dark!

March 31, 2011 at 3:36 pm

JAQ

What I am thinking Maria is, the boy they are bringing on the show really is not Brenda’s boy. Brenda’s boy was kidnapped & put in Jakes place. So the body was that of Brenda & Jax’s kid, NOT Jake, thus Jos being compatable.

Lucia or whatever his name is, was bought on the black market as a substitute for the original boy of Brenda’s.

Jake was switched at the street. Being held hostage now.
I know I am grasping for straws.
But I don’t want Jake to die.
99% of viewers agree with keeping him alive!

Why would Franco leave a message ‘Jason wasn’t paying attention’.

This story either way has way too many holes in it.

As far as the article goes, do you think there was a chance it landed on TPTB desk yesterday? Would it matter?

March 31, 2011 at 6:14 pm

JAQ

Annette, as hard as it is for us to believe, do you know how many children go missing in this country a year?
They are sold. Sold to other countries. Black market babies.
Other countries have child snatching going on as well.
To steal a child is unfortunatly what this world has come to. So replacing Brenda’s REAL child with another, could happen. She never met the kid before, she doesn’t know what he looks like.
And Jake, was switched. Franco grabbed him and put Brenda & Jax’s baby in front of the car.

I do know 2 other things !! Guza is OBSESSED with GVM & Franco. Would he dirty his hands by writing that for Franco?
Who was driving that black sedan? Who was in it?
I know one thing. Luke did not run that child over.

March 31, 2011 at 6:21 pm

Annette

Hi JAQ
I’m thoroughly intrigued with your s/l of the substitute child being Jax/Brenda’s and that Lucien is yet another ‘mystery’ child.. not poor Brenda’s.

Black market babies/children (and body parts) pop up often enough in the media and I can see Franco manipulating this.

I’m convinced The Balkin and Suzanne are working for Franco.

“The Balkin” is no mob kingpin (a cave/lair, a henchman? seriously?) It is very Franco to pick a nut job with a personal grudge to ‘manage things’ in PC and it is another thing Franco could “not have been paying attention to”. This makes more sense the more I think about it.
WHY did The Balkin wait 3 years and then suddenly come after Brenda?? Maybe on Franco’s orders?

I’ve never bought the whole story of The Balkin setting Brenda up for three years. I do buy Suzanne being more in control than the Balkin.
I also have this thought that Suzanne could have known Franco from any number of events/galas (lovers?) or perhaps she and his mom are buddies.
If Franco has long been obsessed with Jason (and I have gotten the impression his obsession began before he came on canvas) then I can see him using a convenient situation to his advantage.

I have NOT seen today’s episode so I have no idea if Suzanne offed the Balkin or visa-versa but I’m hoping she got him!

Any one of Franco’s men could have made the switch, or the Balkin’s (who are downstream Franco employees).

I agree that Guza acts out his weird fantasies on his actors, and they aren’t very nice. He tortures them. He may be obsessed with VMG but he treats her character horribly. Her happiness is always short lived and overshadowed by tragedy. Carly (for all of her antics) seems to have moments of genuine happiness in there.

If I had to pick a GH woman to be on the show I’d probably pick Alice… she seems to have suffered the least.
haha.

March 31, 2011 at 7:40 pm

JAQ

My theory is making more sense. Today there was a memorial only it wasn’t shown!
I swear if they don’t get VGM off my screen I am going to kill someone. She is a child, locked into a women’s body. She has no mind. She is a nothing. A model? For who? Midgets?
I am counting her days to leave this show.

And Sonny didn’t go to the memorial. WTF????

March 31, 2011 at 9:27 pm

Annette


I do believe we have cracked this nut! (or we are on the right track so YAY US!!)

On the topic of VMG we will always disagree dear JAQ
I think she is a very pretty woman. I hate 90% of what is written for her character but don’t fault her any more than I fault LW when Carly becomes overly annoying and unreasonable and spiteful (I could go on), or Sarah Brown when they totally mangled the Claudia character (which had real potential). I also wouldn’t complain if I woke up tomorrow with VMG’s looks (especially that hair!) Prince did not call her “the most beautiful woman in the world” on a whim.

In real life VMG supports a wonderful non-profit here in Santa Monica called Sojourn for battered women and their children. I did a benefit for them in February and know the director. I also know she’s a mom, and her sister has been battling cancer. She’s an actress and a person and I don’t necessarily think a bad storyline dictates personal vilification.

However: you are VERY entitled to like and dislike anyone you choose :) That’s just IMO.

As far as today…

I cannot believe Sonny did not attend the memorial. How insane is that? What was he doing that was more important than attending the memorial of his best friend’s biological son? (Or.. does the entire town not yet know?) He could attend to support the Spencer’s… or just as a member of the community. Yikes.

March 31, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Jax’s kid, NOT Jake, thus Jos being compatable.

Lucia or whatever his name is, was bought on the black market as a substitute for the original boy of Brenda’s.

Jake was switched at the street. Being held hostage now.
I know I am grasping for straws.
But I don’t want Jake to die.
99% of viewers agree with keeping him alive!

Why would Franco leave a message ‘Jason wasn’t paying attention’.

This story either way has way too many holes in it.

As far as the article goes, do you think there was a chance it landed on TPTB desk yesterday? Would it matter?

March 31, 2011 at 6:14 pm

JAQ

Annette, as hard as it is for us to believe, do you know how many children go missing in this country a year?
They are sold. Sold to other countries. Black market babies.
Other countries have child snatching going on as well.
To steal a child is unfortunatly what this world has come to. So replacing Brenda’s REAL child with another, could happen. She never met the kid before, she doesn’t know what he looks like.
And Jake, was switched. Franco grabbed him and put Brenda & Jax’s baby in front of the car.

I do know 2 other things !! Guza is OBSESSED with GVM & Franco. Would he dirty his hands by writing that for Franco?
Who was driving that black sedan? Who was in it?
I know one thing. Luke did not run that child over.

March 31, 2011 at 6:21 pm

Annette

Hi JAQ
I’m thoroughly intrigued with your s/l of the substitute child being Jax/Brenda’s and that Lucien is yet another ‘mystery’ child.. not poor Brenda’s.

Black market babies/children (and body parts) pop up often enough in the media and I can see Franco manipulating this.

I’m convinced The Balkin and Suzanne are working for Franco.

“The Balkin” is no mob kingpin (a cave/lair, a henchman? seriously?) It is very Franco to pick a nut job with a personal grudge to ‘manage things’ in PC and it is another thing Franco could “not have been paying attention to”. This makes more sense the more I think about it.
WHY did The Balkin wait 3 years and then suddenly come after Brenda?? Maybe on Franco’s orders?

I’ve never bought the whole story of The Balkin setting Brenda up for three years. I do buy Suzanne being more in control than the Balkin.
I also have this thought that Suzanne could have known Franco from any number of events/galas (lovers?) or perhaps she and his mom are buddies.
If Franco has long been obsessed with Jason (and I have gotten the impression his obsession began before he came on canvas) then I can see him using a convenient situation to his advantage.

I have NOT seen today’s episode so I have no idea if Suzanne offed the Balkin or visa-versa but I’m hoping she got him!

Any one of Franco’s men could have made the switch, or the Balkin’s (who are downstream Franco employees).

I agree that Guza acts out his weird fantasies on his actors, and they aren’t very nice. He tortures them. He may be obsessed with VMG but he treats her character horribly. Her happiness is always short lived and overshadowed by tragedy. Carly (for all of her antics) seems to have moments of genuine happiness in there.

If I had to pick a GH woman to be on the show I’d probably pick Alice… she seems to have suffered the least.
haha.

March 31, 2011 at 7:40 pm

JAQ

My theory is making more sense. Today there was a memorial only it wasn’t shown!
I swear if they don’t get VGM off my screen I am going to kill someone. She is a child, locked into a women’s body. She has no mind. She is a nothing. A model? For who? Midgets?
I am counting her days to leave this show.

And Sonny didn’t go to the memorial. WTF????

March 31, 2011 at 9:27 pm

Annette


I do believe we have cracked this nut! (or we are on the right track so YAY US!!)

On the topic of VMG we will always disagree dear JAQ
I think she is a very pretty woman. I hate 90% of what is written for her character but don’t fault her any more than I fault LW when Carly becomes overly annoying and unreasonable and spiteful (I could go on), or Sarah Brown when they totally mangled the Claudia character (which had real potential). I also wouldn’t complain if I woke up tomorrow with VMG’s looks (especially that hair!) Prince did not call her “the most beautiful woman in the world” on a whim.

In real life VMG supports a wonderful non-profit here in Santa Monica called Sojourn for battered women and their children. I did a benefit for them in February and know the director. I also know she’s a mom, and her sister has been battling cancer. She’s an actress and a person and I don’t necessarily think a bad storyline dictates personal vilification.

However: you are VERY entitled to like and dislike anyone you choose :) That’s just IMO.

As far as today…

I cannot believe Sonny did not attend the memorial. How insane is that? What was he doing that was more important than attending the memorial of his best friend’s biological son? (Or.. does the entire town not yet know?) He could attend to support the Spencer’s… or just as a member of the community. Yikes.

March 31, 2011 at 10:11 pm

The theory progresses

I posted a few more times on the ABC website and saw that several people embraced the idea that Jake was alive but because that board is so big it's difficult to have a real conversation. I returned to the http://generalhospital.about.com board which I really prefer because it's more interactive.

On 3/29/11 Ed Martin wrote a great piece for the HuffPost entitled:
General Hospital Tragedy: Has This Soap Finally Gone Too Far?


The conversation really took off when I responded to the post on About.Com on March 30, 2011 regarding Ed Martin's article (which is a brilliant assessment of GH and worthy of a read.)

About.com General Hospital Fans
hosted by Maria Ciaccia

I'll include my first comment here:

Annette
Ed is a great writer. So glad you picked up his article!
I hate that the s/l pinned this on Luke… but that is the writer’s lazy writing. It would have been more devastating if it had been Carly or Sam.
IMO Franco took Jake, supplanted him with another, mangled little boy.
He planted the evidence on Luke’s car.
This will create tension within the Jason/Sonny/Luke dynamic and distract Jason from whatever it is that Franco is up to.
Having stirred the mud, so to speak the writer’s have opened doors for couples to switch.
Jason could get back together with Liz, Sam with Lucky, et al.
(the potential is there)
Luke goes on his traditional hiatus and returns just as he is cleared (Jake is found)… it’s almost ‘too convenient’
Ah.. my last thought.
The writers may know ‘exactly’ what their doing.
There is no such thing as bad press and look at all the press they are getting. Of course, it is at their viewer’s expense. Heartless at best.

'Bring Jake Back'

On March 23, 2011 I posted this on the abc.go.com message board and on March 24, 2011 I sent this as a letter to the President, Disney/ABC Television (Anne Sweeney), President of ABC Daytime (Brian Frons), as well as the Executive Producer (Jill Farren Phelps) and Head Writer (Bob Guza).


Because I hate the idea of 3 year old Jake Webber dying on General Hospital I have worked my brain overtime into a plausible storyline that would 'Bring Jake Back'.

So ... here goes.

This rests on the premise that little ‘Jake’ was so mangled in the car accident that he was unidentifiable, his parents don't go in to say goodbye because they are too stricken, etc.

1) The black, no name, unidentified car that went through the intersection belongs to Franco (assuming Franco or a henchman have been stalking Elizabeth's with a fair haired child on hand just waiting for a moment when little Jake would be standing on the road or perhaps they went to take Jake and he made it convenient by standing on the road's edge - you know how Franco likes to twist things into being the other persons 'fault'.

2) An identical, mangled tow-headed little boy is left at the scene (in the same clothes) and Jake is whisked away for whatever nefarious dealings Franco has planned or simply used to taunt Jason down the road. Franco is anything if nice (he tossed a guy off a building to die in his stead as a decoy.. so this is a very Franconian thing to do.

3) Hysterical Elizabeth only sees a crumpled blond baby boy on the side of the road, calls 911 and goes in from there. Note: I don’t believe Elizabeth or Lucky see Jake at the hospital because of the condition he is in.

4) Joss’ kidney transplant leads to a CLUE in the coming weeks that Jake is alive. (Mention of a mismatched blood type or something and then Jason can go on the hunt).

We need to preserve the great dynamic that is POSSIBLE by keeping another generation of the Quartermaine family alive.
Please, encourage your writers to BRING JAKE BACK. His ties to the Quartermaine’s, Spencer’s, and Webber’s make him one of the most pivotal characters on the GH canvas today. Port Charles would have been his Oyster.

why here - why now?

I seem to be posting a lot about General Hospital (in a generally hospitable way) and I wanted a place to archive my posts. I imagine I'll branch off into other topics... but for now what has my mind racing is the story of Jake Webber (or shall I say the demise of Jake Webber).